How to build a three-ply laminated 2x10 beam and what fasteners to use

by Patrick
(Long Island, NY)

I am building a ground level deck (max 24" of the ground). It is L shaped and will have 2 long beams (27.5' and 31'). The beams will be 3-ply PT SP#2 2x12's using 12' long lumber cut to fit the distances between the supporting posts.

Should I make each beam a continuous beam or make should I make each long beam up out of separate beams the length of each distance between support posts "on center" that but in the middle of the support bracket?

The beams will be top loaded. There will be no joist hangers on the sides. Given the environment, I want to use 316 stainless steel fasteners and preferably screws (structural screws). Which one would you recommend.

What pattern would you recommend for the fasteners? I am in NY state, perhaps the code dictates some of this but I have not been able to find any information in the code.

Editor Comments

Q1: I would recommend a single continuous beam made of staggered dimensional lumber that can span the required distance. I will explain this further in the video below.

Q2: a) I would take some construction adhesive and apply it liberally in between each 2 by 12, screw with a number 10D 3-½" hot zinc screws or spiral nails would be great as a minimum. Longer is even better. But if you are in an environment where salt air or spray is an issue I would use stainless steel 304 screws. If you can get 316 screws that would be even better. And an RSS screw is the finest.

Q2: b) Use a zig-zag pattern and double up on screws at the ends of each board. One above the other separated by about 6-7". Set them at 16 inches on center distances from each other and about 1-2" in from the edge of the board.

Check out this video for more information:



Video Recap


Have you ever had to build a beam, a big triple ply beam that's longer than the lumber that you can buy, let's say 30 feet or so?

How do you do it? Well, we've got a question that came in today from Patrick from Long Island.
And I'm going to explain to you and to Patrick how best to do that.

So, Patrick writes:

"I'm building a ground level deck, maximum 24 inches above the ground, it's L-shaped and it'll have two long beams. One is 27 and a half feet, the other one is 31 feet. The beams will be three-ply pressure-treated SP number two 2 by 12s, using 12-foot long lumber cut to fit the distances between the supporting posts. Question one, should I make each beam a continuous beam, or should I make each beam long enough out of separate beams the length of each distance between the support post and on center with those support posts below the beam?"

I recommend a single continuous beam. It could be done the way you're proposing, but I just would never do that. A lot of problems that could arise from that and it's very easy to build a continuous beam.

So, what you're going to do here if you're working with 12-foot lengths, I would ensure that one of those plies, one of those 2 by 12s is butt joined directly over the central support post. I'm presuming you have at least three given that length.

And then take each subsequent layer of 2 by 12s and offset it right in the middle of the previous one so that the joints are always going to be at least six feet apart. And do that three times.

Take some construction adhesive and apply it liberally in between each 2 by 12, screw with a number 10D hot zinc screws or spiral nails would be great.

They should be hot zinc galvanized for ACQ treated lumber, or use a number 10 wood screw that's at least three inches long, set them at 16 inches on center distances from each other. You can use a zigzag pattern at the ends. Make sure you double it up.

If you do that the beam is going to be obviously quite heavy, you're going to need some help lifting it. But that thing is going to be rock solid.

It will support the structure beautifully, and it's going to give you the most stability and you will enjoy that deck for years to come, Patrick.

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Aug 03, 2024
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Joints in multi ply beams NEW
by: Dave

I am a certified Canadian Building inspector and have many years experience as both a contractor and building inspector. If you followed the instructions given in the video above I would FAIL that beam at a glance due to joint locations and width joint rules!
First, the National Building Code (Canada) for at least 80 years, states EXACTLY when an WHERE you are allowed to make joints in multiply beams. Without a lengthy explanation of compression and tension physics, following are the rules:
First, we commonly use both 3 and 4 ply beams. Species of lumber, length of supported joists, beam depth (eg, 2 x 10's or 2 x 12's) and distance between support posts are ALL considered, as is the required nailing of the plys. Let's imagine (for simplicity) we are dealing with a 48 foot beam in a house, with 3 posts, thus creating 4-12 foot spans. Within those 12 foot spans, divide the span into quarters so at 3', 6' and 9' points. These are referred to as "Quarter Points"
Here are the BASIC RULES:
1) Joints can be made over a support. Any number, so you could make 4-12 foot individual beams, and that is fine.
2) Joints CAN be made at (or within 6 inches) of the "END QUARTER POINTS" (see example above), so 3 foot and 9 foot points ONLY, NEVER at the 6 foot point! Said joints cannot be in adjacent plys ( must be staggered), nor can those joints reduce the overall width of the beam by more than 1/2. So in a 3 ply beam, ONLY 1 end quarter point joint is allowed, but 2 would be allowed in a 4 ply beam, just not in adjacent members.
3) If a member is jointed at an end quarter point, that member must be continuous OVER the next support(so scratch the 4 - 12 foot piece beam now) so no 3 foot AND 9 foot joints IN THE SAME PLY. You can make joints at BOTH end quarter points between supports, BUT NOT IN THE SAME PLY.

Jan 27, 2021
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Flat
by: Brian in NH

Another tid-bit; when making such a long built-up beam, assemble as flat as you can. Mechanically fastened and glued built up plies have a tendency to conform to the place they are built on. it saves some aggravation when straightening the beam in place.
I've also built them in place and strung them as I went for I was working alone and couldn't lift the finished product myself. Hope this helps somebody...

Oct 16, 2019
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Fasteners NEW
by: Matt

as far as fasting schedule goes, many states use the IRC. check in table 602.3 for built up girders and beams - item 27 in the 2015 book. If your state does not use I-codes, its still ok to use as a guide and cross check with your local building department.

What you have here is above and beyond and is in no way a bad way to go. but remember that codes are MINIMUM STANDARD. Its ok to do more, just make sure you wont be making trouble for yourself in another area.

Jan 20, 2019
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splice positions
by: Jimm

Since he is working with 12' lumber and his biggest span is only 32', he has more leeway in cutting those outside plies. I agree with your innermost ply. But on the outside plies, your placement puts two joints at the same point. IF he is putting a post there, that will work well (a post every 6' should work well). But, if that is not where the posts are located, I would shift one outer ply to the left and one to the right about 2' so the two joints on the outside plies are also staggered. This way there is never more than one joint within 2 feet of another.

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