Cedar deck problems - Black Spots

by Dave
(Ontario, Canada )

I had a cedar deck built last year and have had nothing but problems. Right after it was built the wood started turning all spotty black. It looked sort of like mold.

Apparently this was caused by a grinder being used during construction..

After washing the deck with deck wash the black came out but the wood got all white and fuzzy after drying...so had to lightly sand the deck and got some ready seal on it finally the deck looked ok...

Now after this winter areas of the deck are all hairy, like brown strands all coming off the deck. Under these areas the deck looks new. The hair reminds me of cedar bark. Some areas still look ok with the ready seal.

I'm hoping the whole deck doesn't need to be sanded. All I've been doing with this deck is work and not getting to enjoy it.

I'm really starting to regret going cedar. The railing and privacy panels still look good with the ready seal.

What to do?

Could this be just cheap or improperly dried cedar?




Editor's Comments

That is iron filings rusting on your deck. They can be very very fine and they are really tough to remove afterwards. You can really see them and they grip and stick well to the wood fibers.

That was a dumb and inexperienced move by the builder for sure.

What you are seeing on the cedar is the fibers from the sand job. You can try to resand but with a finer less course paper. If you sand too hard or if you pressure wash to hard you end up with fibers being pushed up and it later becomes quite obvious.

This is also a problem cabinet makers face when they are trying to get a piece of wood to be really smooth before finishing.

What they do is use a hand scraper with a tiny burr on the edge and it literally cuts each errant fiber right off. It's beaufitul. But easy for a small cabinet. Not quite as easy for a larger deck.

I really would consider that if you want to fix the problem or else try the lighter sand. That may do it.

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Mar 03, 2023
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Alaskan Yellow cedar
by: John Re

I also replaced our deck with Alaskan Yellow Cedar . Due to the spacing of our support beams 3"x 5" planks were needed, very expensive but builder convinced me being next to the ocean and wanting a nice silver look it would be worth the cost . We paid extra to have lumber kiln dried but have had a nightmare ever since . Within 3 months hairy growth showed up so deck was totally sanded then black specks showed up everywhere, small metal flakes from the sander caused it so we sanded again , then painter spilled varnish on deck so we sanded again now 4 years later half the deck has dark specs some an inch in length other areas look like an animal scratching but think it’s a fungus. Old deck was port orford cedar and others suggested I use Red Cedar ,called various suppliers in Washington State for answers and got none , what to do next with my $$$$ deck

Aug 04, 2022
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Roofing
by: Anonymous

I recently installed new cedar stair steps and after the first rain I began seeing the black spots others are mentioning. I didn't do any grinding so I'm not sure of a source of any metal metal. I'm curious about others roofing materials as people comment about it occurring after a rain. I have asphalt shingles and I wonder if rain is washing material off of the shingles onto the decks?

Jun 08, 2021
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Black spots from metal particulates
by: Anonymous

Skyco Ospho is the thing to use. Simply spray
a diluted , say an 4 oz into a gallon or stronger. lightly wet the cedar first. then spray on. Do on a
cool cloudy day. Stand there and you will literally
see the black spots dissapear.

May 19, 2021
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Struggling to keep the deck looking nice!
by: Michele

We built our Western Cedar deck about 13 years ago. It's beautiful! Accept, when Winter is over and the snow melts off the deck, very quickly it turns black. For 12 years we have had a process of cleaning it with two types of cleaner, sanding and then staining it. What a pain in the butt!! We really wouldn't mind if it just turned grey but, when it turns black you can hardly see the beauty of the wood.
If we used deck sealer on top of our semi-transparent stain, would that keep the black from coming back? Or, would it even matter?

Apr 09, 2020
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black cedar pickets on fence NEW
by: Anonymous

I FIND AFTER ALL THESE TEARS THAT CEDAR TURNING BLACK IS CRAZY. JUST HAD NEW CEDAR PICKET FENCE INSTALLED NOW AFTER A RAIN THE SOME OF THE PICKET ARE TURNING BLACK.I CALLED A COUPLE OF CEDAR COMPANIES AND QUESTIONED THEM ON THIS AND ALL I GOT WAS AWAWAWAW THAT IS NORMAL. I WILL SAY THIS IT IS NOT NORMAL.CEDAR FOLKS DONT KNOW THERE OWN PRODUCT.

Aug 15, 2015
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cedar
by: Dave

I would try the deck wash or there are formulas online using oxy clean laundry detergent. This should clean and brighten. I continued to have problems with my deck and I used two products the next year and to me cedar is just way to much work unless you let it grey I guess.

I sold that house and now enjoy a concrete patio that I've never had to do anything to.. I'll never touch cedar again!!!!

Aug 15, 2015
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Grey Black Spots On Brand New Deck
by: Mike

We just built a new deck last month and after the first rainfall there's black/grey spots all over! Some areas are extensively worse then others. Particularly where there's still sawdust sitting around.

Is there anything we can do to remove them, other than sanding?



Editor's Comments

Almost certainly whoever built the deck was grinding or sanding metal and fine iron filings have landed all over your deck. Maybe they were from a container of nails or something that had fine iron pieces in it.

But you are looking at metal either rusting or reacting to chemicals in the wood. Since I am not a chemist I cannot offer you a chemical solution.

Dave's comments about a deck cleaner oxy clean might work. I would consider giving it a try.

You either sand it off, right down deep enough that you remove all the fine pieces of metal or you use a scraper just like a cabinet maker would and carefully scrape each board removing a fine layer of fiber and the fine filings with them.

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